Today, Joe Sanok speaks with Alison Pidgeon on how to slow down to spark innovation.
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In This Podcast
Three phases of slowing down:
- Purging Phase
- Practice Phase
- Presence Phase
To watch the videos that go along with this series, visit www.practiceofthepractice.com/slowdownvideo.
Meet Alison Pidgeon
Alison is a licensed professional counselor in the state of Pennsylvania. In 18 months she went from starting a solo private practice to building a insurance-based group practice. She now employs 3 clinicians and a virtual assistant. In her spare time she is often seen running after her two small children and her therapy is cooking.
Meet Joe Sanok
Joe Sanok helps counselors to create thriving practices that are the envy of other counselors. He has helped counselors to grow their businesses by 50-500% and is proud of all the private practice owners that are growing their income, influence, and impact on the world. Click here to explore consulting with Joe.
Pop 195 | How To Slow Down To Spark Innovation With Alison Pidgeon And Joe Sanok[0:00] Music. [0:08] This is the practice of the practice podcast with joe sanok and alison pidgeon session one hundred and ninety five. [0:14] Music. [0:25] Welcome to the practice of the practice podcast this series is on my gosh i’m so excited about the series before we get into that.
Allyson pigeon back on the practice the practice putt does how you doing alison green and i’m doing so good today,
it’s sort of like a like overcast well that’s like all of winter in northern michigan and sometimes the summer to yesterday in northern michigan and,
it snowed a little earlier so well we’re gonna be doing this the series that’s about slowing down to spa,
innovation and so this first episode of the series i wanna can walk everybody through what it’s gonna be like an elf and i can assure little bit about our struggles in slowing down,
and why is really important to slow down so the model that i’ve kinda created is that,
for us to really pull up those big ideas we have to slow down,
that naturally leads into spark innovation and so have first step is you slow down so you have like you know maybe getting in shower and a long drive,
and then you have those big ideas that come out and then it will what do i do with that insulin if we go into the innovation side what do you do with that i’ve develop these seven steps that i’m calling the seven practices of the practice,
to just kinda walk you through goal setting we’ve got some interviews coming up so that’s the basic structure alison tell me about your slowdown journey. [1:51] Yeah so ironically it’s really tough for me to slow down so i think that this is gonna be really great thing for me to listen to.
I think the one time i’ve noticed tiny little slow down is when i’m on vacation,
which is probably a typical times people you know relax and try not to think about work and but what’s interesting is when i am able to you know sort of get outside of the daily routine i,
enable to think more creatively and get more ideas for my business and it was actually was on vacation i was able to figure out what i wanted to name my practice so.
Yeah we have a lot of benefits so when you go on vacation what kind of things did you have to.
Set up so the money keeps coming in for your practice even when you’re relaxing and the beach somewhere or whatever.
Yeah that’s were having group practices really nice because even if i’m on vacation properly my contractors are still there seeing clients so that you know income is still coming in yeah yeah so we have no systems in place definitely helps.
It’s interesting so that you have your business ideas when you are on vacation and.
It’s so interesting that first day used to feel guilty when i have these ideas on vacation and it slowed down like all like i should just be totally fully present with my daughters or i should be totally fully present this way,
do you feel guilty when like you start to think about your business going on vacation now not usually cuz i feel like that’s the time when i get to sort of. [3:23] Thinking,
more relaxed way about these things and it’s,
you know it’s winter comes in and out so it’s not like i’m spending the whole day thinking about one of my guinea my business that sort of like one of those things it just like hits you like a les paul moment yeah i’ve,
that’s it that’s all i need to do.
Yeah yeah i agree i know for me how it is tough because that i tend to like i don’t have a good boundaries sometimes where if i like let myself go into that mode a little bit it’s like two hours later and.
No way i’m on vacation i should be doing this i have to set really like clear boundaries.
But when i allow myself to then become a in the in between it’s amazing how you have so many more of those ah ha moments yeah definitely.
Yeah for me i’m just thinking about what are some where some times i haven’t slowed down and i remember this time we’re in kalamazoo.
And i didn’t have really my for private practice or just sub contractor for a local practice their.
And we’re taking insurance if chicagos time to get on each panel and find the answer to get some clients and i was like so overwhelmed because,
i just wanted clients but then i’ll still get a full-time job and i remember just like breaking down crying,
okay that was so overwhelmed that i worked hard to get clients that i finally got him like my gosh like i don’t wanna just busy and.
Be careful what you wish for i know seriously sisters so when we talk about slowing down there’s usually three phases and will talk a little bit more about this in the series but also in their three-part video series that goes along with this. [4:56] I’ve noticed and maybe else and you can comment on each of these that when we slow down it usually starts with a purging phase where,
yeah baby at the beginning of your vacation you fill the compulsion to check your phone are you like have to tell you something i’m not gonna go on social media,
and then kinda goes into a practice phase where you have to kinda,
let’s set some clear boundaries or some practices are you know whether to garden massage or go for a hike but there’s like practices and then it kinda moves you into more of a presence phase that purge practice presents.
Any thoughts on that three steps of kinda slowing down. [5:33] Yeah that’s only thing is that because i always notice for example when we go on vacation like the first day like i’m definitely not relax like i’m still worried about like houses gonna where or what’s gonna happen at work because i’m gone or.
Yeah the second ball or whatever and then it’s like.
When you really start to focus on what you’re doing getting you interested in activities are happening on vacation and it’s easier to sort of not be worried about that stuff anymore not have that anxiety any sort of slide into vacation mode of,
and then it’s like well like i kinda like this i kinda wanna go back to work and i claim like the day before i might,
i’m like a boxer like i hear garlic let’s do this i’m ready in particular two year old a five year old so yeah honestly it’s like i’m ready to get away from being a daddy for a little bit,
yes it just on a quick side it is amazing what kids get worked up over like do you ever see that.
I don’t think it works no i’m just like i don’t remember these hand motions and i was a kid but then again i guess when you’re in the midst of it you don’t so.
Yeah what’s next in the next podcast that is a really releasing these every few days or so so make sure that you are subscribe to the practice for the practice podcasts you get them directly sent to your phone.
So next read me talking with megan warner who is a psychologist on the east coast.
Who she really did some amazing things are guards to slowing down and she is a huge breakthrough so i can reset it with you and then we’re gonna dive into can the sparks and energy innovation in the podcast after that. [7:08] We’re gonna be talking some owners of in ohio based company called spark space and then we’re gonna dive into all seven practice is the practice of huge gas like kelly higdon luis house jeep happens and,
people there are sleep national speakers so it’s going to be an awesome series is gonna be a total of ten podcast in the series over the coming weeks,
in a few other videos to go along with the serious head on over to www you got practiceofthepractice.com/slowdownvideo taking it slow down video.
His videos to go along side with this series that are gonna help you go deeper to get help you learn how to go through that at purge that. [7:49] Presents where to go in-depth of seven practices and share it with the one big thing that really move the needle for this year for you and how do they. [7:58] So again aspects of the practiceofthepractice.com/slowdownvideo think so much for letting us into your years and into your brain have an awesome week. [8:08] Music. [8:17] Special thanks to the man cells and sexy thank you for your music in this podcast design record for the. [8:25] Just come up with gas host gets was published. [8:30] A professional kitchen if you need a professional ship island and heading over to slowdown school that come to find out more about this conference for doing. [8:38] Music.