Are you a group practice owner seeking to teach your clinicians invaluable skills in social justice? How can we begin to have difficult conversations with compassion? Where does one begin to do the work?
In this podcast episode, Whitney Owens speaks with Dr. Nathalie Edmond about training practices on being antiracist.
Meet Dr. Nathalie Edmond
Dr. Nathalie Edmond is a licensed clinical psychologist and an experienced yoga teacher. She has been in the therapy world for twenty years. Dr. Edmond specializes in the treatment of trauma from a mind-body-spirit approach. Social justice is centered in her work. She has a variety of trainings on diversity and inclusion and developing an anti-racist identity.
She has been consulting with practices, yoga studios, and small groups on how to infuse anti-racism work into personal and systemic transformation. She enjoys bringing a mindful and compassionate approach to difficult conversations to help everyone awaken and be free. She is the owner of a group practice in Ewing, NJ called Mindful and Multicultural Counseling.
In This Podcast
- Tips and insights for group practices on how to encourage antiracism discussions
- How Nathalie cares for herself amongst this work
- Different resources that Nathalie provides
- Nathalie’s advice to Christian counselors
Tips and insights for group practices on how to encourage antiracism discussions
The first step is to acknowledge that people are socialized from within a society that is built on anti-blackness, that whiteness held most of the power throughout history, and that slavery and the enslavement of black people is what the United States of America was built upon.
If we move away from this binary system of ‘you’re racist you’re bad’ and ‘you’re not racist you’re good’ to racism as a continuum and that sometimes we do it on an individual basis, but even with us leading really good lives that we founded on taking care of all beings, the system is built to be unequal.
This system inherently privileges white people and oppresses black people and people of color. Through accepting this and realizing that it is not about if you yourself have racist beliefs but more about what are those beliefs from the system, and how can you challenge them and understand where they come from, in order to make conscious choices in your actions and within your community.
Acknowledging, unpacking, and then redirecting energy into a place that is truly inclusive and wholesome for everyone can only be done once you accept that you need to challenge beliefs in yourself from the system that may be lying dormant. It is a continual journey and process.
How Nathalie cares for herself amongst this work
- Nathalie spends time meditating in the early hours of the morning to center herself.
- She goes to a virtual church weekly and exercises often to keep her body in good health.
- Having regular family gatherings and discussions and getting enough rest.
These are things anyone can try to do more of, especially when dealing with antiracism work within yourself.
Different resources that Nathalie provides
A 60 – 120-minute talk on becoming an antiracist, covering mindful practices, a historical context of white supremacy, and how white supremacy impacts both black and white people. It dives into the Black Lives Matter movement and how to work on antiracism within yourself and your community on this continuum, and on how to be an ally in the fight against racism.
Nathalie also offers a 3-part series that dives deep. It includes topics from the above intro talk and on how to notice how racism is prevalent in your communities by evaluating the history of racism in areas, for example, the history of segregation in cities. It also covers how to call people into the compassionate discussion, especially people who may be misunderstanding the BLM movement and who are dealing with racist beliefs in themselves.
Then she also offers therapy and yoga courses for a different approach. She also speaks with church communities on how they can encourage antiracism in their communities, and she offers consultations for group practices and on individual levels for people of color dealing with grief and trauma.
Advice to Christian counselors
To work with the idea that truly all lives matter, and that God exists within each person. Spreading the word and truths behind antiracism around church communities in order to encourage sincere spiritual wholeness and heal the deep legacy within the church.
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Meet Whitney Owens
Whitney is a licensed professional counselor and owns a growing group practice in Savannah, Georgia. Along with a wealth of experience managing a practice, she also has an extensive history working in a variety of clinical and religious settings, allowing her to specialize in consulting for faith-based practices and those wanting to connect with religious organizations.
Knowing the pains and difficulties surrounding building a private practice, she started this podcast to help clinicians start, grow, and scale a faith-based practice. She has learned how to start and grow a successful practice that adheres to her own faith and values. And as a private practice consultant, she has helped many clinicians do the same.
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