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A photo of Dr. Katie Nall is captured. Dr. Nall has her Ph.D. in Mathematics Education, she also is a two-time TEDx speaker. Dr. Katie Nall is featured on Practice of the Practice, a therapist podcast.

What is the science behind EFT? How can you use EFT to dissolve your daily WAFFLES? What about EFT makes it so effective in regulating and maintaining an emotionally healthy life?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about EFT and completes a live session with Dr. Katie Nall.

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Meet Dr. Katie Nall

A photo of Dr. Katie Nall is captured. She is Tedx Speaker, and Master Trainer and Certified Practitioner in Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) with additional training in trauma, quantum, and picture EFT. Dr. Nall is featured on the Practice of the Practice, a therapist podcast.

Not only does Dr. Nall have her Ph.D. in Mathematics Education, she also is a two-time TEDx speaker, a professional member of National Speakers Association, and an Accredited Master Trainer and Certified Practitioner in Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) with additional training in trauma, quantum, and picture EFT. Whether in person or online, Dr. Nall shows others how to dissolve their WAFFLES – worry, anxiety, fear, frustration, lethargy, exhaustion, and stress. A careless housekeeper and worse cook with no desire for rehabilitation she somehow is still married to the same person for over 49 years.

Visit Dr. Nall’s website and connect with her on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Youtube.

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In This Podcast

  • What is EFT?
  • What has recently given you WAFFLES?
  • How is EFT effective?
  • Dr. Katie Nall’s advice to private practitioners

What is EFT?

Emotional freedom technique is also called EFT or [EFT] tapping, and it is a somatic method to release negative emotions that are stuck in our body. (Dr. Nall)

Gary Craig, the developer of EFT, and a Standard-educated engineer, studied meridians in Chinese medicine and identified them as electrical circuits.

Clinical studies that have been done around the world have shown that tapping is more effective than cognitive-based behavioral therapy, or talk therapy, and is just as effective as EMDR. (Dr. Nall)

The main difference between tapping and these other modalities is that you can learn to do it yourself and practice it in your own time. It is non-addictive, non-invasive, and can be self-administered.

What has recently given you WAFFLES?

In the last 24 to 48 hours, what has given you:

W: Worry

A: Anxious

F: Fearful

F: Frustrated

L: Lethargic

E: Exhausted

S: Stressed

A basic EFT tapping session:

  • Which emotion are you currently feeling?
  • On a scale from 1 to 10, at which intensity could this feeling be classified?
  • Where do you feel it in your body?
  • Right here, right now, do you feel safe?

If that is not a true statement, pick another statement that is true. For instance, you could say, “Right here, right now, I accept the way I feel … or even … someday I hope to accept the way I feel”. (Dr. Nall)

Taking Joe’s example, you can follow along:

  • Take your right or left hand and look at its palm. Between your wrist and little finger, there’s a fleshy part on the side of your hand. Tap on this space with the four fingers of your other hand.


“Even though when I think about [the difficult event] today I still have a little bit of worry in my shoulders. Right here, right now, I feel safe anyway.”

Repeat twice with different variations while tapping.

  • Tap on the top of your head with either your left or right hand, or both.
  • Tap above your nose in between the edges of your eyebrows.
  • Tap on the outside of the eye between the eye and the hairline.
  • Tap underneath the eye on the top part of the cheek.
  • Tap underneath the nose above the upper lip.
  • Tap underneath the lips.
  • Tap on the collarbones, either with one hand on one collarbone or both hands on both collarbones.
  • Gently but firmly slap on your lower ribs.
  • Blow all your air out of your mouth like a cartoon character.
  • Take a sip of water if you have water nearby, and reflect on how you are feeling.

How is EFT effective?

Worldwide clinical studies that have been done on the effects of EFT have shown that the process of tapping reduces the adrenal and cortisol levels that spike during stress.

More importantly, what they have found is that that particular incident doesn’t return … that’s the most powerful part, I think. (Dr. Nall)

Using EFT tapping to move through difficult events in life has helped people resolve the issues caused by those events.

And, if that event ever were to happen again, that person will not be as negatively impacted by it.

Dr. Katie Nall’s advice to private practitioners

You were put here to make people’s lives better. Ask yourself every day, is what I’m doing making people’s lives better? Carry on!

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Meet Joe Sanok

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Joe Sanok helps counselors to create thriving practices that are the envy of other counselors. He has helped counselors to grow their businesses by 50-500% and is proud of all the private practice owners that are growing their income, influence, and impact on the world. Click here to explore consulting with Joe.

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