Joe Sanok Talks About His New Book “Thursday is the New Friday” | GP 82

Image of Joe Sanok. On this therapist podcast, podcaster, consultant and author, talks about how his upcoming book, Thursday Is The New Friday.

How well do utilize your time at work? What are the differences between the industrialist and organic models of work? Which work model is best for you and your needs?

In this podcast episode, Alison Pidgeon speaks with Joe Sanok about his new book, Thursday Is The New Friday: How to Work Fewer Hours, Make More Money, and Spend Time Doing What You Want.

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Meet Joe Sanok, author, podcaster, and private practice consultant

A photo of Joe Sanok is featured on the Faith in Practice podcast. Joe is interviewed by Whitney Owens where they speak about his new book, Thursday Is The New Friday.Joe Sanok is the author of Thursday is the New Friday: How to work fewer hours, make more money, and spend time doing what you want. It examines how the four-day workweek boosts creativity and productivity.

Joe has been featured in Forbes, GOOD magazine, and the Smart Passive Income Podcast. He is the host of the popular The Practice of the Practice podcast which is recognized as one of the Top 50 Podcasts worldwide with over 100,000 downloads each month. Bestselling authors, experts, and scholars, and business leaders and innovators are featured and interviewed in the 550 plus podcasts he has done over the last six years.

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In This Podcast

  • Industrialists versus organic model
  • Time is not permanent
  • Learn more about yourself

Industrialists versus organic model

There is a slow change happening on a global scale with regards to working hours, how to do business, and productivity, and some people are being pulled into the industrialist model and others are being pulled into a more organic model.

The industrialist model:

  • Views people like machines,
  • Does not care for personal time over work time,
  • Approves and respects burnout.

The organic model on the other hand looks at how people develop within their roles:

  • What do you love doing right now that you want to keep on doing?
  • What do you hate doing that you want someone else to do?
  • Where do you see yourself headed?

Know that to make more money you don’t have to just become a supervisor, but you can develop a role that you actually want to do. (Joe Sanok)

Time is not permanent

This idea that the week is something that’s permanent, that we’ve always had weekends and we’ve always worked five days is a very recent way of viewing our week. (Joe Sanok)

What we are living now is true for us in the present moment, however, it has not always been true throughout human history.

We can change the way we work and live to better suit our needs as they develop over time, instead of feeling like we have to constantly be trudging through our days.

Learn more about yourself

Taking the knowledge and implementing it is not about mimicking the lifestyle of someone else, it is about structuring the kind of life that suits you and your needs best by empowering yourself with knowledge and the know-how.

Observe in which environments you work best in, or if you prefer to do admin first thing or all together on a particular day. When do you feel most creative? What do you need time for?

You can use different brain techniques such as:

  • Wearing a particular piece of clothing when you need to get something done,
  • Setting the lighting a certain way,
  • Listening to a certain playlist or artist when you work,
  • Having a routine.

All these techniques can be used to get your brain on board with your work. By using the power of association, you can work alongside your brain instead of against it when you are pushing yourself to do something that is not sitting well with you right then and there.

I used all these brain techniques so that when I was going to kill it, I was absolutely going to kill it, and get it done … and getting into that habit of working less to actually get more done. (Joe Sanok)

Books mentioned in this episode:

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Meet Alison Pidgeon, Group Practice Owner

An image of Alison Pidgeon is displayed. She is a successful group practice owner and offers private practice consultation for private practice owners to assist in how to grow a group practice. She is the host of Grow A Group Practice Podcast and one of the founders of Group Practice Boss.Alison Pidgeon, LPC is the owner of Move Forward Counseling, a group practice in Lancaster, PA and she runs a virtual assistant company, Move Forward Virtual Assistants.

Alison has been working with Practice of the Practice since 2016.  She has helped over 70 therapist entrepreneurs start and grow their businesses, through mastermind groups and individual consulting.

Transformation From A Private Practice To Group Practice

In addition, she is a private practice consultant for Practice of the Practice. Allison’s private practice ‘grew up.’ What started out as a solo private practice in early 2015 quickly grew into a group practice and has been expanding ever since.

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