LaToya Smith Podcast Takeover “A Racial Awakening Is Happening” with Julianna Vermeys and Andrea Redeau | PoP 511

LaToya Smith Podcast Takeover "A Racial Awakening Is Happening" with Julianna Vermeys and Andrea Redeau | PoP 511

How can holding an authentic space with someone facilitate sincere discussions around race? Have you practiced setting boundaries to safeguard yourself as a therapist? Are you curious about how to build a truly anti-racist practice?

In this podcast episode takeover, LaToya Smith speaks with Julianna Vermeys and Andrea Redeau about a racial awakening that is happening.

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Meet Julianna Vermeys and Andrea Redeau

Julianna & Andrea are focused on providing and teaching clinical supervision from an anti-racist and trauma-informed approach. Supporting fellow clinicians as they take on this challenging and important framework into clinical supervision.

Juls & Drea strive to foster authenticity, collaboration, and humility in this important work.

Visit Julianna’s website and Andrea’s website. Check out their joint venture on Instagram.


In This Podcast


  • Raised expectations
  • It is not an option anymore

Raised expectations

Due to the mass of educational resources and all the evidence around, one cannot pretend not to see the racial tones within society, especially if that someone has privilege. People who do not do the work cannot claim ignorance because now it just looks like apathy, or worse.

Due to the raised expectations, BIPOC now actively creates safe spaces around them where you are allowed entry if you are actually engaged in the conversations. By instilling these boundaries, BIPOC is able to protect themselves and their energy from having to constantly be on the defensive.

To be a part of my life professionally or to be a part of my life personally, you need to be doing that antiracist work and have a bigger understanding and understand what makes me comfortable, what doesn’t make me comfortable, and being willing to have a dialogue. (Andrea Redeau)

It is not an option anymore

As a white person or someone with privilege, it is no longer an option not to take part in the discussion because the silence is loud and hard to ignore. As an ally and someone who is willing to do the work, you can extend these conversations and raise them up to the place where they need to be for people to begin questioning their place in all of it in an authentic space.

When you come to the table with authenticity and sincerity, it resonates with the other person and you two are better able to have fuller conversations about race from both of your perspectives with a shared goal or future in mind. One has to have the capacity to deal with discomfort in order to fully explore the more difficult areas of the discussion so that it can be fully realized and fruitful.

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Meet LaToya Smith

LaToya Smith

LaToya is a consultant with Practice of the Practice and the owner of LCS Counseling and Consulting Agency in Fortworth Texas. She firmly believes that people don’t have to remain stuck in their pain or the place they became wounded. She encourages her clients to be active in their treatment and work towards their desired outcome.

She has also launched Strong Witness which is a platform designed to connect, transform, and heal communities through the power of storytelling.

Visit LaToya’s website.

Connect with her on FacebookInstagramStrong Witness Instagram, and Twitter.

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