LaToya Smith Podcast Takeover “Taking The Necessary Steps” with Colleen Paul | PoP 509

LaToya Smith Podcast Takeover "Taking The Necessary Steps" with Colleen Paul | PoP 509

What can you do in the continuous movement against systemic racism? How can you move through painful realizations about yourself and still keep on fighting? Are there things you can do and remember that will allow you to become a better ally?

In this podcast episode takeover, LaToya Smith speaks with Colleen Paul about taking the necessary steps.

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Meet Colleen Paul

My name is Colleen Paul, and I live in Chicago, Illinois. I am a pre-licensed mental health counselor working at a private practice called Accepting Therapy, and I have been there since May 2019.

I recently graduated from Northwestern University on the child and adolescent track, which is my ideal client population.


In This Podcast


  • Awareness
  • Acceptance
  • Now what?


With anti-racist work, it is about becoming informed and educating yourself, and becoming aware of how you have been involved in racist systems. Examine the ways in which your privilege has protected you or times you have benefited simply from having white skin.

This is a difficult and painful stage, no one likes to think about how they have benefited from unequal privileges, but all this work starts here and starts from becoming aware of your role.

A lot of white people are not used to being uncomfortable and being confronted and therefore immediately jump to being defensive. However, do not let the discomfort stop you entirely from doing the work – however uncomfortable you are, want to be corrected, want to be taught, want to be expanded, and want to learn how you can be better.


This is more of the action stage; you are now more aware of your actions and your place in the system. You’re feeling something, that is good, but now you need to utilize that energy. Pick up a book and read more about what is going on, challenge people around you when they say things that should not be said.

Normalize that it is okay to fumble, and think about what is next after this.

Now what?

There are so many resources available to white folks who are curious to expand their understanding. Seriously consider donating, it is the best way to put money where your mouth is and place money directly into the hands of people who know exactly where and how to use it.

Keep yourself moving, keep yourself a part of the action stage and use your voice for something good and constructive, not just for you but for those around you too.

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Meet LaToya Smith

LaToya Smith

LaToya is a consultant with Practice of the Practice and the owner of LCS Counseling and Consulting Agency in Fortworth Texas. She firmly believes that people don’t have to remain stuck in their pain or the place they became wounded. She encourages her clients to be active in their treatment and work towards their desired outcome.

She has also launched Strong Witness which is a platform designed to connect, transform, and heal communities through the power of storytelling.

Visit LaToya’s website.

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