LaToya Smith Podcast Takeover “We Have To Make Change” with Choya Wise | PoP 508

What benefits can men receive from going to therapy? How can you move through a racialized system with humility and integrity? How can you protect your mental energy in places that turn people against one another?

In this podcast episode takeover, LaToya Smith speaks with Choya Wise about the change we have to make.

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Meet Choya Wise

Choya Wise is a licensed clinical social worker with over 20 years’ experience in mental health.

He is the founder and CEO of Aspire Counseling and Consulting Services a group practice where he specializes in Relationship Counseling and Anger Management.

Learn more about Choya here and connect with him at

In This Podcast


  • Encouraging men to seek therapy
  • Choose to function in power
  • Create your own narrative
  • Choya’s advice to therapists

Encouraging men to seek therapy

What is the need, what is it that the client needs? Choya comes from the standpoint of need, and in his opinion, most of the need comes from men wanting to be in a relationship.

From the perspective of a black male, Choya observes and works mostly with them wanting to make their current relationship work or better themselves for their future relationships. By meeting people at their needs, you can move forward from there easily and together with your client.

A lot of guys think that talking about feelings is really mushy and it’s something that’s a female trait or characteristic or thing that you do, and ‘that’s not what real men do, talk about feelings’ but the problem is … a lot of times you see with anger management is that people aren’t talking. (Choya Wise)

Choya addresses this topic directly with his clients and dives right into feelings. By talking about it, you remove any shame around it. No one is keeping you from growing and developing yourself.

Choose to function in power

Some people who are insecure in themselves are unhappy, that is why they come into your life and try to induce misery into your life. Therefore, by having an optimistic flow and having gratitude, and choosing to live in power, you are already much higher and further along than they are.

It does concern you, but I choose to function in power, and that’s what I try to get my black brothers and sisters to look in power. Don’t allow people who are insecure and have all these issues to defeat you. (Choya Wise)

Focusing on peace, focusing on change, and ignoring perspectives and narratives that are harmful.

Create your own narrative as a therapist

Perspectives from politicized mass media are not built for truth, always. The things in media are very real but each media group warps it in the ways that best serve them, not always you.

It’s not to say that there’s a lot of bad stuff out there, it’s like the bad stuff is out there but I’m gonna start pounding from the ground; I’m gonna read news, I’m only gonna watch it when I need to. (Choya Wise)

Put your energy towards focusing on one aspect instead of generalizing your attention across everything and getting spread too thin.

Choya’s advice to therapists

There is a great opportunity. Fight for the bigger picture of change, but don’t let that be self-limiting to you. Spread the word that there are great possibilities in these practices.

It is not about being right, it is about being understood and many people need to be humble to just listen to the story.

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Meet Private Practice Consultant LaToya Smith

LaToya Smith

LaToya is a consultant with Practice of the Practice and the owner of LCS Counseling and Consulting Agency in Fortworth Texas. As a therapist, LaToya firmly believes that people don’t have to remain stuck in their pain or the place they became wounded. She encourages her clients to be active in their treatment and work towards their desired outcome.

She has also launched Strong Witness which is a platform designed to connect, transform, and heal communities through the power of storytelling.

Visit LaToya’s website.

Connect with her on FacebookInstagramStrong Witness Instagram, and Twitter.

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