Lisa R. Savage, LCSW, Built A 50+ Clinician Practice and Added Measurement-Based Care | PoP 631

A photo of Lisa R. Savage is captured. Lisa R. Savage, LCSW, is the founder and Chief Executive Officer of the Center for Child Development and the Delaware Center for Counseling & Wellness. Lisa R. Savage is featured on Practice of the Practice, a therapist podcast.

What is the practice-growing power behind niching down into your topic? How do you manage a large group practice with ease? Are you considering adding measurement-based care to your practice?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks with Lisa R. Savage, LCSW, who Built A 50+ Clinician Practice and Added Measurement-Based Care.

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Meet Lisa Savage, LCSW

A photo of Lisa Savage is captured. Lisa is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and the founder and CEO of the Center for Child Development. Lisa is featured on Practice of the Practice, a therapist podcast.

Lisa R. Savage, LCSW, is the founder and Chief Executive Officer of the Center for Child Development and the Delaware Center for Counseling & Wellness, which provide community-based services for children and their families, as well as an active member of Clinicians of Color.

In addition to providing individual, family, and couples counseling services to those in need, CCD has partnered with over 90 Delaware public, private, vocational, and charter schools across the state to provide in-school services to Delaware’s students.

Visit the Center for Child Development website. Phone them at 302.292.1334

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In This Podcast

  • Create your niche and grow your expertise
  • Managing a large group practice
  • Measurement-based care
  • Lisa’s advice to private practitioners

Create your niche and grow your expertise

That’s how I grew my practice, really zeroing in on being [within my niche] … that was probably one of the best business decisions I have ever made because it helped me scale my practice to a point that I never even imagined. (Lisa Savage)

By working around your niche, expanding your expertise, and becoming known in your area as the expert on the topic that you work on is a surefire way to skyrocket your business because:

  • It compounds over time
  • Increase credibility
  • Solidifies trust

Some therapists are nervous to get involved within their niche to avoid turning clients away. However, becoming known for something specific that you are an expert in is what draws clients to you.

Once you become known for something and doing it well then of course people are ringing your doorbell and wanting to access services for themselves. (Lisa Savage)

Managing a large group practice


For the sake of your well-being and the growth of your group practice, you need to delegate out. It benefits you as well as your staff and the practice itself.

Create a team comprised of people that you trust and who share similar passions about the practice. Work towards a collaborative environment where all the moving parts are taken care of by people who know the practice well.

I could not effectively run my practice doing it all. I created positions for people who … had been with me for a very long time … I created this collaborative model of management with my leadership team where we discuss issues, growth, goals. It’s very collaborative. (Lisa Savage)

Collaborate with your team:

Once you have built your dream team of honest, hard-working, and passionate people, collaborate with them.

Invite their opinions, let them share their concerns and ideas, celebrate their successes, encourage them to take responsibility, and give them agency by allowing them to handle their roles.

I can go out of the country for a couple of weeks at a time and know that everything is going to be okay because my team is on the same page as I am. They get the vision. (Lisa Savage)

Have a shared vision:

Instill a shared vision in the group practice that every staff member is interested in and wants to work towards.

A shared vision encourages sincere teamwork, a healthy dose of optimism, and a drive to do good work.  This cultivates a culture that everyone on board wants to be a part of.

Measurement-based care

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  • Information on how many people need to reimburse you and how much you will get in reimbursement
  • Information about the CPT code and removes the guesswork
  • A platform for suggestions
  • Assessments in different languages, depending on what your clients need
  • Access to divorced parents to see the same account for their child

Lisa’s advice to private practitioners

Being a private practice owner is much easier when you are coachable and open to learning from other people. It is okay to pay somebody to help you figure out something difficult or how to grow.

If you can get people in your practice who share your vision, you are building loyalty in your business. Invest in the people that work for you and show them that you value their contribution.

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Meet Joe Sanok

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