Live Consulting with Ellen Gigliotti: How Do I Move Away From My Counseling Practice? | PoP 534

Are you thinking of making a transition from your practice? Why are the first few months into the transition the most important? How can you avoid repeating the same ideas in your new business venture?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok does a live consulting call with Ellen Gigliotti about how to move away from her counseling practice and onto the next big thing.

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Meet Ellen Gigliotti

Ellen J.W. Gigliotti, LMFT, is the clinical director of Sanctuary Christian Counseling in Shippensburg, PA, with more than 15 years of experience. She has an undergraduate degree in psychology, earned her MA in marriage and family therapy from Evangelical Theological Seminary, and has done postgraduate work in Gottman Method Couples Therapy, EFT, and sexual addiction.

She is a member and clinical supervisor for the American Association of Marriage and Family Therapy, and the American Board of Christian Sex Therapists, and is awaiting certification from the ABCST and board certification in telemental health.

Visit her website, connect on Facebook, and Twitter.

In This Podcast


  • A lateral move
  • Pitfalls to avoid

A lateral move

In the case of your business, you can shift your work focus on a lateral move that can help to increase your income and to increase your time. Consider things like podcasts in order to expand your reach while producing passive income for you.

A podcast I think has the potential to really amplify your reach beyond the individual on-the-couch or working with people in a group practice. That’s where I think there’s potential to really grow something unique that is scalable. (Joe Sanok)

Over time, you may progress from one-to-one work, counseling with individuals, to one-to-many, working with groups, or running mastermind classes.

You can mentally start to exit your practice before making any real changes. Make small shifts to your schedule and start letting go of old to-dos to free up some space and time for yourself to make the transition easier.

Challenge yourself: what are the boundaries you want to have around your relationship, family time, and time spent working? You do not need to keep the same schedule you have always kept.

Pitfalls to avoid

Once you have let go of your practice or the business that you were working on, try to avoid creating something similar to it just because it is familiar to you.

Move away from that field and try something completely different. In some states, you may sign a contract with the new buyers that you will not create something that is in competition with what they are buying from you. This is in some way a good thing: it pushes you to move in a new direction.

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Meet Joe Sanok

private practice consultant

Joe Sanok helps counselors to create thriving practices that are the envy of other counselors. He has helped counselors to grow their businesses by 50-500% and is proud of all the private practice owners that are growing their income, influence, and impact on the world. Click here to explore consulting with Joe.

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