Make Meaning Out Of The Struggle With Dawn Gabriel | GP 129

On this therapist podcast, Dawn Gabriel talks about Make Meaning Out Of The Struggle.

How do you make meaning out of difficult situations in business and in life? Can struggle bear fruit? How does soul care help you to heal the therapist matrix?

In this podcast episode, LaToya Smith speaks about how to make meaning out of struggle with Dawn Gabriel.

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Meet Dawn Gabriel

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Dawn Gabriel is the founder and CEO of Authentic Connections Counseling Center and the host of the Faith Fringes podcast.

Dawn creates an engaging space for fellow clinicians and healers to look deeper into their spirituality and faith. She has about 20 years of diverse experience in the clinical mental health world and currently focuses on helping therapists engage their spirituality in new ways in order to cultivate a deeper and authentic connection with God.

Dawn hosts Soul Care Retreats that are exclusively for therapists. She believes that therapists need their own sacred place to slow down and let go of all that they hold in order to continue their transformative work with others.

Find out more about Authentic Connections Counseling Center and the Faith Fringes podcast.

Connect with Dawn on Facebook, Instagram, and Pinterest.

In This Podcast

  • Making meaning out of struggle
  • “The therapist matrix”
  • The importance of soul care
  • Dawn’s advice to private practitioners

Making meaning out of struggle

Especially in group practice and [in life] … when those lows come … it knocked the wind out of me, but what I’ve noticed is that the most beautiful things come from that. (LaToya Smith)

Life has moments that will be equally and inevitably tough and then joyous.

One way to cope with the complexities and dualities of life is to find and make meaning out of struggle when difficult moments arrive.

Turn them into moments of greatness – if you can – and let them inspire you as much as they can crack you open.

I had to realize I had to get stronger as a business [owner] and a leader, and I had to be clear on my expectations. It helped [to] develop me, even though it was devastating at first … what are the lows? How can they [help] you live the life you want and develop a great practice? (Dawn Gabriel)

“The therapist matrix”

Most therapists can identify with the “therapist matrix”, the multilayered approach to life where you can understand and experience more of the nuances because you have been trained to see them in clients.

As a therapist, you have so many parts to you. You are:

  • An ordinary person
  • Perhaps a wife/mother
  • Perhaps a business owner
  • A spiritual person
  • An entrepreneur
  • A therapist to clients

I think a lot of it is learning how to … I don’t even want to say “balance”, but rather, understand the rhythm of all those [aspects of self] that are going to be fighting for attention and you have to decide which one, at this moment, do I need to give more voice to? (Dawn Gabriel)

There will be times when all these different aspects are triggered in different ways, and you will need to evaluate the situation and decide which way is the best way to approach it, for you, and anyone else involved.

You cannot always be the therapist in the picture, sometimes you need to be the mother, the partner, or the business owner, and decide from that standpoint.

The importance of soul care

Soul care differs from self-care. Soul care is deeper, on a spiritual level, where you strive to ground yourself within something bigger than yourself.

This could be God or any spiritual practice that reminds you to connect to a higher source of love and support.

So, it’s a reminder for therapists that we are whole, and that we should tend to our whole selves. (LaToya Smith)

You need to tend to all of yourself, not just to the piece that shows up at the office. In this way, you practice soul care to heal the therapist matrix.

Dawn’s advice to private practitioners

Start. Take the next right step, and get moving towards your dreams. Hire a consultant because it can change your business life.

Build your business from your values, where would you want to work if you weren’t the boss?

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Meet LaToya Smith

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LaToya is a consultant with Practice of the Practice and the owner of LCS Counseling and Consulting Agency in Fortworth Texas. She firmly believes that people don’t have to remain stuck in their pain or the place they became wounded. In addition to this, LaToya encourages her clients to be active in their treatment and work towards their desired outcome.

She has also launched Strong Witness which is a platform designed to connect, transform, and heal communities through the power of storytelling.

Visit LaToya’s website. Connect with her on FacebookInstagramStrong Witness Instagram, and Twitter.

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