Practical Sustainability: Circular Commerce, Smarter Spaces and Happier Humans with Corey Glickman and Jeff Kavanaugh | POP 762

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How can you reduce the environmental impact of your private practice? Do the small sustainability changes really matter? What does sustainability in business look like?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about practical sustainability with Corey Glickman and Jeff Kavanaugh.

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Meet Corey Glickman

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Corey Glickman is Vice President at Infosys and leads their sustainability and design business, delivering smart space initiatives for clients globally. Together with Jeff Kavanaugh, he is the co-author of Practical Sustainability.

Corey is a member of both the World Economic Forum Pioneer Cities group and the MIT Technology Review Board and is a faculty expert at Singularity University. The American Institute of Graphic Arts named Corey one of the one hundred most influential designers of the decade.

Connect with Corey on Twitter and LinkedIn.

Meet Jeff Kavanaugh

A photo of Jeff Kavanaugh is captured. He is Vice President and Head of the Infosys Knowledge Institute. Jeff is featured on the Practice of the Practice, a therapist podcast.Jeff Kavanaugh is Vice President and Head of the Infosys Knowledge Institute, the research and thought leadership arm of Infosys, a leading tech and consulting company. He is an adjunct professor at the Jindal School of Management at the University of Texas at Dallas and author of the books The Live Enterprise and Consulting Essentials. Jeff has been published in Harvard Business Review and other leading business publications.

Visit Jeff Kavanaugh’s website, the Infosys Knowledge Institute, and connect with him on Twitter, and LinkedIn.

In This Podcast

  • Why sustainability matters now
  • Environmental, social, and governance
  • Advice for the jaded citizens
  • Practical sustainability in private practice
  • Jeff and Corey’s advice to private practitioners

Why sustainability matters now

The real short answer is that we recognize that this is no longer a world of infinite resources, [and] that equity needs to take place on all different levels [and] has to be addressed. (Corey Glickman)

As the population shifts, you see changes in cities and changes in economies.

The book that Corey and Jeff wrote was inspired by and takes its lead from a quote by Rachel Carson, about how human beings are at a point in technology and society where they can change the situation at present, and shift their destiny, if they choose to do so.

There are things that we can do. We’re not helpless, and we should not set goals for 50 years from now … we can do active things right now, and that was the sentiment behind [writing] this book. (Corey Glickman)

Environmental, social, and governance

[E] Environment: it is everything around you, from growth to waste. It is what you grew up with and the science behind it. Anything that relates to climate change is related to the environment.

[S] Social: human capital and talent, which is also an ultimate renewable human resource. It is also about being equal, fair, and equitable.

[G] Governance: this is the most overlooked, but one of the most important. Managing risk, companies, and governments to be fair and secure about data, privacy, and law-making.

E gets a lot of the attention because it’s about the environment and things you can see. S is getting more [attention] because it’s where people relate, and G [consists of] those things like institutions and structures that need to behave with integrity so that everything else can function. (Jeff Kavanaugh)

Advice for the jaded citizens

The average person is fed up. They recycle, bike to work, compost, and reduce their waste wherever possible while big corporations and governments may not be held accountable for their waste.

What can everyday people do to maintain practical sustainability without having to feel like they are giving up everything?

First of all, every small change matters … doing these small things actually [does] lead to big things … it’s the small changes that make the impact moving across there. (Corey Glickman)

Remember that in numbers, people have power. Massive change is possible with unified action.

Practical sustainability in private practice

  • Where are you getting your Cloud services from? You can find the specs of different services to see if they use renewable energy.
  • Scrutinizing what you need to store. Empty and delete what you no longer need to free up data and reduce digital and environmental waste.
  • Get more out of the technology that you have before you buy new computers and phones.
  • Reduce office waste. Use refillable coffee structures, reduce print, and use light-saving bulbs.
  • Use dark modes whenever possible on your devices and files.

Jeff and Corey’s advice to private practitioners

Jeff: You can do more than you think you can. You are in a unique position to make a profound impact on the world, and sustainability is a viable tool to help yourself and your clients.

Corey: There needs to be a North Star. There will be a lot of decisions that need to take place, but make them with the direction that you want to go in mind.

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Meet Joe Sanok

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Joe Sanok helps counselors to create thriving practices that are the envy of other counselors. He has helped counselors to grow their businesses by 50-500% and is proud of all the private practice owners that are growing their income, influence, and impact on the world. Click here to explore consulting with Joe.

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