Psychedelics Series: An Intro to Psychedelics – Psilocybin Part 2 | PoP 445

Psychedelics Series: An Intro to Psychedelics Psilocybin Part 2 PoP 445

What is Psilocybin? How is Psilocybin used in therapy? How do you prepare a client for a Psilocybin experience?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks with ‘M’ about her work and journey with Psilocybin and plant medicine experiences from a therapist, mental health clinician’s point of view.

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In This Podcast


  • Psychological paradigms and the psychedelic world
  • Default mode network
  • Preparing for a Psilocybin experience

Psychological paradigms and the psychedelic world

Not all of the psychedelic experience is going to fit neatly into our understanding of psychology from a Western perspective. We may be missing a lot of what the psychedelic experience has to offer in terms of deeply shifting us and our perspective on the world.

Default mode network

This is the idea that we all walk around with a set of assumptions about yourselves and about the world. There are fundamental assumptions we make about the world that helps us navigate in some ways, such as knowing that the sun is going to rise and this is how we eat. What psychedelics do is shake that up to make us know that it isn’t so.

Preparing for a Psilocybin experience

There is not as much of a tradition with Psilocybin and there is not the lineage of knowledge to draw from but it makes it feel full of possibility and interesting dangers. When preparing to take Psilocybin, physically there is a lot less to be concerned about. There are no foods that will interact with and has a great track record with physical safety.

‘M’ starts talking to her clients about a month in advance and figuring out what they are hoping to gain from this, the circumstances of their lives, what support structure they have. Two weeks before the experience they will start talking about how the client is preparing by winding down, taking up yoga, etc. She also encourages clients to speak with their doctors if they are any sort of medication and if they are in good physical condition.

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